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ogdenz 14.10.15 - 05:12pm

@ mdc - 14.10.15 - 02:50pm
The effect is not the cause.

An effect becomes a cause. Also you speak of logic..logic isn't always applicable. Eg quantum mechanics. * +

mdc 14.10.15 - 05:56pm
An effect becomes a cause, it's no longer effect in that sense. And quantum mechanics can't contradict logic because it follows accurate mathematics. * +

mdc 14.10.15 - 05:59pm

@ ogdenz - 14.10.15 - 05:10pm
Why should there be a single cause? All things have unlimited causes.

You cannot justify a single cause if you have unlimited causes. What is the cause of the unlimited causes? It's like adding unlimited 0 to reach 1. You'll never reach it. * +

ogdenz 14.10.15 - 08:42pm

@ mdc - 14.10.15 - 05:56pm
An effect becomes a cause, it's no longer effect in that sense. And quantum mechanics can't contradict logic because it follows accurate mathematics.

Its a cause or effect dependent upon your viewpoint. Where you start from where you start to view it from. * +

ogdenz 14.10.15 - 08:44pm

@ mdc - 14.10.15 - 05:59pm
You cannot justify a single cause if you have unlimited causes. What is the cause of the unlimited causes? It's like adding unlimited 0 to reach 1. You'll never reach it.

I dont justify a single cause to anything. To first make a cake you need a big bang. * +

mdc 15.10.15 - 03:44am
I never said you don't, I said you can't. And from your point of view the cause of the big bang is another cause after another cause... to infinity. Infinite causes. You'll never make the cake if infinite causes are real. * +

ogdenz 15.10.15 - 09:33am
No,the cake is inevitable unlimited times if infinite causes are real. * +

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