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Subject: we muslims n we hate who kil inocents
33larry 20.12.15 - 12:23pm
Unlike nearly all of the Old Testament verses of violence, the verses of violence in the Koran are mostly open-ended, meaning that they are not restrained by the historical context of the surrounding text.
They are part of the eternal, unchanging word of Allah, and just as relevant or subject to interpretation as anything else in the Koran.
The context of violent passages is more ambiguous than might be expected of a perfect book from a loving God.
Most contemporary Muslims exercise a personal choice to interpret their holy books call to arms according to their own moral preconceptions about justifiable violence.
Their apologists cater to these preferences with tenuous arguments that gloss over historical fact and generally do not stand up to scrutiny.
Still, it is important to note that the problem is not bad people, but bad ideology, i.e. Islam. * +
33larry 20.12.15 - 12:26pm
Unfortunately, there are very few verses of tolerance and peace to abrogate or even balance out the many that call for non-believers to be fought and subdued until they either accept humiliation, convert to Islam, or are killed.
Mohammeds own martial legacy, along with the remarkable stress on violence found in the Koran, have produced a trail of blood and tears across world history spanning 1,400 years.
Other than the fact that Muslims havent killed every non-Muslim under their domain, there is very little else that they can point to as proof that theirs is a peaceful, tolerant religion.
Where Islam is dominant (as in the Middle East and Pakistan) religious minorities suffer brutal persecution with little resistance.
Where Islam is in the minority (as in Thailand, the Philippines and Europe) there is the threat of violence if Muslim demands are not met.
Either situation seems to provide a justification for religious terrorism, which is persistent and endemic to Islamic fundamentalism.
The reasons are obvious and begin with the Koran. Few verses of Islams most sacred text can be construed to fit the contemporary virtues of religious tolerance and universal brotherhood. * +
33larry 20.12.15 - 12:30pm
The example of Mohammed is that Islam is a religion of peace when Muslims do not have the power and numbers on their side. Once they do, things change.
The violent verses of the Koran have played a key role in very real massacres and genocide.
This includes the brutal slaughter of tens of millions of Hindus for five centuries beginning around 1000 AD with Mahmud of Ghaznis blood conquest.
Both he and the later Tamerlane (Islams Genghis Khan) slaughtered an untold number merely for defending their temples from destruction.
Buddhism was very nearly wiped off the Indian subcontinent.
Judaism and Christianity met the same fate (albeit more slowly) in areas conquered by Muslim armies, including the Middle East, North Africa and parts of Europe, including todays Turkey.
Zoroastrianism, the ancient religion of a proud Persian people is despised by Muslims and barely survives in modern Iran.
Violence is so ingrained in Islam that it has never really stopped being at war, either with other religions or with itself.
Mohammed was a military leader, laying siege to towns, massacring the men, r*ping their women, enslaving their children, and taking the property of others as his own. * +
33larry 20.12.15 - 12:34pm
On several occasions he rejected offers of surrender from the besieged inhabitants and even butchered captives.
He inspired his followers to battle when they did not feel it was right to fight, promising them slaves and booty if they did and threatening them with Hell if they did not.
Mohammed allowed his men to r*pe traumatized women captured in battle, usually on the very day their husbands and family members were slaughtered.
It is important to emphasize that, for the most part, Muslim armies waged aggressive campaigns, and the religions most dramatic military conquests were made by the actual companions of Mohammed in the decades following his death.
The sites of massacres at the hands of Islam litter the globe.
Those who claim that Islam is a Religion of Peace are delusional liars. * +
9362 20.12.15 - 12:36pm
But christianity was no better * +
0gypsy0 20.12.15 - 02:33pm
''was'' * +
0gypsy0 20.12.15 - 09:07pm
That's why those times were called 'the dark ages'
. it's not OK for them to do these things today just because christians did it once too. no no.
The worse thing is that these things were always happening throughout history and we didn't learn anything . * +
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