Yeshua the jewish Messiah

@ manszar - 27.12.15 - 10:14am
so the crucifixion was nothing but a show then? all the animal sacrifices where for nothing. its strange that god sent all those prophets and never mentioned that the Salvation Yeshuah was already there before the world was.

The coming Salvation was foreshadowed and prophesied thru the prohets etc. John 5:39You search the Scriptures because you think that in them you have eternal life; it is these that testify about Me; 40and you are unwilling to come to Me so that you may have life. * +

alvar89 29.12.15 - 08:21am
All the pharisees etc didnt understand and still dont today. You lean on them saying the same things they did willingly denying the Messiah. Just like the parable of the vineyard owner said they knew He was the inheriting Son and still wanted to kill Him. The choice to not loving and grasping the truth sets you blind to the meanings in scripture. Flesh and blood does not reveal heavenly things. Just as they didnt understand Yeshuas words. Gods words are spiritual not understandable with flesh.
Matthew 16: 17And Jesus said to him, Blessed are you, Simon Barjona, because flesh and blood did not reveal this to you, but My Father who is in heaven.
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Thessalonians 2:10and with all the deception of wickedness for those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth so as to be saved. 11For this reason God will send upon them a deluding influence so that they will believe what is false, 12in order that they all may be judged who did not believe the truth, but took pleasure in wickedness.
Nicodemus couldnt understand how it is possible to be born again by his earthly eyes. The pharisees didnt understand how He will raise the temple in 3 days thinking about it thru flesh not spirit. * +

manszar 30.12.15 - 11:40am

@ alvar89 - 29.12.15 - 08:02am
Looking it thru the lie of the serpent still does mess up the interpretation. They where grown humans not kids. And it was no favorite bush. It was a side of life at hands reach for all of us what had everything that is now wrong in this world in it. A side man never needed to go after. Seeing it now the wisdom and man being a god thru it had its price so to say. Ppl who still think it was benefitting knowledge the tree gave are still seeing it thru the lie of the serpent. That knowledge without Gods all knowing foreseeing rule and guidance became a curse to man something that leads you in a prideful rebellious death.

we can see who is actually looking at it through the eyes of the serpent. you say adam and eve are not children yet children have more of a opportunity to make good choices because of there instinctual knowledge of what is good and what is evil. so adam and eve were less than children. you say the knowledge of good and evil is everything that is now wrong in this world. yet to know evil is to know good and to retreat from evil to pursue good. a evil act exists without the knowing of it regardless. but only by knowing can it be avoided. can compassion exist without the knowledge of good and evil? * +

manszar 30.12.15 - 11:43am

what is the point of the (as christians claim) the very important free will, without the knowledge to know if you are making good or bad choices? you can only choose to not do that which if evil if you know it is evil. * +

manszar 30.12.15 - 11:46am

not to mention the very fact that if man was to live forever, the knowledge of good and evil would have been acquired by experience over time.

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manszar 30.12.15 - 11:56am

and remember the eating of the fruit was not act of rebellion just like the children i spoke of. it was merely a submission to temptation. a act that should be forgiven considering the lack of knowledge to make good choices. the children would not have considered the hard work i had put in to get the flower. but it is also my duty as parent to understand that i put them there, and that they are children just like adam and eve. * +

manszar 30.12.15 - 12:03pm

@ alvar89 - 29.12.15 - 08:05am
Sin is going against Gods way. To make it a bit clearer its going against life itself as you can read not anymore taking from the tree of life when you choose the other selfish Godless way.Life is from God and death is in sin.

again we have already shown this to be a lie whether you know it or not. many people follow a godly path, but you say they are all going to the fire unless they accept jesus. so we see you do not have to sin or rebel against God to be punished the same as those that do. according to christians * +