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Subject: Yeshua the jewish Messiah
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xfrankie 29.11.15 - 05:07am

@ manszar - 29.11.15 - 02:42am
lol.gif sorry i have a life

you do? could have fooled me, you been at this same issue on pro for nearly a decade, some life huh! * +

xfrankie 29.11.15 - 05:13am

@ manszar - 29.11.15 - 02:50am
yet he was born of the womb and says, If I glorify myself, my glory means nothing. again saying he descended from heaven and lived in Glory with God before the world begun does in no way whatsoever mean he is god. God is not a man

so WHAT DO THE WORDS MEAN to you? long before he was born of a woman, He existed in Glory with God before anything was created, and before born of a woman, He descended from Heaven first, You who cares so much about what Jesus says, what did He mean by that? because you assume He's merely, only, just a man.. * +

xfrankie 29.11.15 - 05:16am

@ manszar - 29.11.15 - 02:54am
my life has been my preparation, my desire for truth. my love for God. all play a part in it, not my desire for my own salvation.

o great, so no preparation, just jump in the book, and start reading away, there's the problem. hold up! love for god? Do tell, what do you mean by God, who, how, * +

xfrankie 29.11.15 - 05:29am

@ manszar - 29.11.15 - 03:03am
no they dont. i see jesus as just a man not a god, if you want to claim he is more than a man but not a god then fine, but to try and claim all christians see him as more than a man so therefor the see him as a god is just more of your rubbish. so your claim that jesus is god is disputed by half of the christians that believe in christ, so by your own reasoning they are as correct as you. showing both have no true clue as to whats going on lol.gif

its like you start reading what i say, stop mid-way, and add your own stuff, then claim i said it. I said, ALL Christians see Christ as more than just a man, i added NEARLY ALL of the ALL, see Him as God, (very simple stats) the sects that don't are so, so minute, off head, i can only think of jehovah's witness, and mormons i think, (percieved cultic) but BY AND LARGE its unanimous agreement as to God. The Reason they ALL do, see Christ as more, is in the Bible its so obvious, and plain to see, It is impossible to use the Bible to prove He is just a man. * +

xfrankie 29.11.15 - 05:44am

@ manszar - 29.11.15 - 03:03am
no they dont. i see jesus as just a man not a god, if you want to claim he is more than a man but not a god then fine, but to try and claim all christians see him as more than a man so therefor the see him as a god is just more of your rubbish. so your claim that jesus is god is disputed by half of the christians that believe in christ, so by your own reasoning they are as correct as you. showing both have no true clue as to whats going on lol.gif

disputed by half? goodness, do you take this inadequate preparation into other aspects too, catholicism 1.2 Billion.. that already is more than half, Prostestanism 800 million.. well now we're in 2 Billion.. cursory google search, doctrinally all agree Jesus Is God, that leaves a under 200 million of the 2 Billion, where does half disputed come from? * +

xfrankie 29.11.15 - 05:56am

@ manszar - 29.11.15 - 03:07am
when people like you say that no one has seen god, then when shown that in the old testament they did see god, so you come back with yeah but that was jesus lol.gif i have no fear in saying i understand the bible more than people like you yes.gif

you're at liberty to say anything you want, whether it be true or false but conduct, now that speaks volumes better than words, If God's Word was fully understood in you, you would be Christian, the least in belief in the Word, understands it far better than the one in unbelief. * +

xfrankie 29.11.15 - 06:02am

@ manszar - 29.11.15 - 03:14am
its really very simple, all you have to do is understand the old testament. you see the messiah was never meant to be a god. just ask the any practicing jew, you know jesus was Jewish right? well going by your own claims they who know the old testament should know if the messiah was to be a god. so once you know he was never meant to be god. and jesus confirms he is the messiah then we see he is not god.

no jew to exist, will ever understand the old testament apart from the new. the old testament is veiled, will remain hidden from them but revealed in the new 2 Cor. and yes written by a jew of the jews, a pharisee of pharisees. I've read the testimonies, articles, today of Converted jews, who bare witness to that. * +

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