Yeshua the jewish Messiah

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alvar89 1.09.15 - 06:17am

@ manszar - 1.09.15 - 03:04am
well isn't this interesting from the man that claims free will was such a necessary part of it all, so free will with god deciding everything and yes of course we would have learnt what was good or evil. by the things that made up prosper and the things that did not

He does not decide we do. He shows us what is evil and what is good and what are the consequences of deciding evil acts. The Lord is our Sheppard looking out for us and protecting us if we go wander on our own we end up in a trench or mouth of a wolf. * +

quiller 1.09.15 - 12:05pm
And, if a shepherd does its job, the sheep ends up being fleeced and eaten. * +

quiller 1.09.15 - 12:07pm
Of course, if the shepherd wares wellies.... panic * +

manszar 2.09.15 - 04:02am

@ alvar89 - 1.09.15 - 05:44am
The animal was a shadow of things to come. Isaacs story was showed us our sons dont have to die because it will be payed by God. God did not want them to keep sinning and killing animals it was a temporary solution for them to get freed of sin and live. Proverbs 21:3
To do what is right and just is more acceptable to the LORD than sacrifice.

it as never a solution. that's just what they claimed but to claim such a thing of God is discussing. Proverbs 21:3 To do what is right and just is more acceptable to the LORD than sacrifice, of course it would be claimed to be more acceptable, because you don't have to kill if you do not sin, but hay if you do god loves and accepts the blood of animals as payment... DISGUSTING. * +

manszar 2.09.15 - 04:09am

@ alvar89 - 1.09.15 - 05:53am
Shows how little you know of the ancient cults practices even your peaceful so to say mayans used to sacrifice on the high places as did the egyptians, baal worshippers etc.

ok first of show me where I said peaceful Mayans, and second you said they were collecting souls. . the Mayans are no different than Christians who believe the sacrifice of a man was necessary. same as the Jews. and all the rest that beloved blood could influence the gods. * +

manszar 2.09.15 - 04:13am

@ alvar89 - 1.09.15 - 06:00am
Thats how the system works and propably has no alternative way for sin to get fought in a freewill system.

then as it was stated earlier its all gods fault. adam had to sin and god made sure he did. by keeping him ignorant of the conciseness of his actions. placing the tree in front of them and allowing the devil to temp them. all planned by god. * +

manszar 2.09.15 - 04:17am

@ alvar89 - 1.09.15 - 06:01am
He did collect His sheep but the proud and blind did not see the prophecy.

you mean the 12 apostles who jesus asked for god to protect? didn't they die horrible, horrible deaths? * +

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