Yeshua the jewish Messiah

Subject: Yeshua the jewish Messiah

alvar89 1.12.15 - 05:10am
Those verses are clear as day what He meant by saying Hes the only one who has seen Him and is from Him to represent Him. * +

alvar89 1.12.15 - 05:16am
The eternal Son who has allways been with the Father became a man and was fully man in humility inorder to interact and do what was necessary. You see in revelation He is full blown God again. * +

alvar89 1.12.15 - 05:24am
John 3:11 Truly, truly, I say to you, we speak of what we know, and bear witness to what we have seen, but you[f] do not receive our testimony. 12 If I have told you earthly things and you do not believe, how can you believe if I tell you heavenly things? 13 No one has ascended into heaven except he who descended from heaven, the Son of Man.[g] 14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, so must the Son of Man be lifted up, 15 that whoever believes in him may have eternal life.[h] * +

manszar 1.12.15 - 07:53am

@ alvar89 - 1.12.15 - 05:06am
Not very honest approach taking verses out of context and trying to fit with other parts to look contradicting. He was talking to Nicodemus and was making a point of no one except Him coming down from heaven showing him His authority and validity of His teachings. This is a common thing to try and show contradictions in the bible youre just picking it up and ignore the fact its been answered. Propably will post it again after a amount of time. This kind of thing just proves the truth of the bible because ppl need to manipulate inorder to make it look bad

so just on the last page you say its no person and angels are not people. so when shown other people have you say im taking things out of context. the fact is jesus said NO ONE, so clearly he lied or did not know others had. ether way its a clear indication he is not god. * +

manszar 1.12.15 - 07:55am

you speak of manipulation so you must see the length of manipulation christians must go to to claim jesus is god. * +

manszar 1.12.15 - 07:59am

@ alvar89 - 1.12.15 - 05:07am
John 1:18 No one has ever seen God; the only God, who is at the Fathers side, he has made him known.

according to the old testament that is not true. the bible itself shows how the bible is just not true. again we see how much manipulation and deceit is needed to make the bible stand up to scrutiny.

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manszar 1.12.15 - 08:00am

@ alvar89 - 1.12.15 - 05:10am
Those verses are clear as day what He meant by saying Hes the only one who has seen Him and is from Him to represent Him.