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bobdylan 13.12.14 - 10:31am
Ok it wasn't Jesus's actual birthday and this is even a given , every on accepts this .
But he was born , and as that information isn't available as when he was born then you may as well pick a date to celebrate he's birth .... Right ?

Now the controversity is that the 25th was already a important bash , not just pagan but even beyond that , astrologically it's important so different religions all over history n the world observed it from the starts as been a day for a party ..... Now if there's already a party bash that day why not label it your own , remember Christianity is a brand that required selling .

But the bible it's self dose not say celebrate the birth and that it's more about the death ... Then we have Jesus who had no idea of Christianity , tbf didn't start it either . He was a Jew , did Jew things and he's ''msg'' was a new way of jewdisum .
Jesus said very strongly you must stick to the old testament and the old ways , largely Jewish holidays .
So is it really right for Christians to see xmass as a religious Holliday * +

bobdylan 13.12.14 - 10:33am
Christmas is supposedly a day to worship and celebrate God the Father and Jesus Christ, wouldn't it be a good idea to look into the Bible to see what it says about how we should worship God?
The answer is quite clear. God gives specific instruction about using pagan practices to worship Him the exact thing Christmas does! Notice what He says in Deuteronomy:12:30-32

: . . . Do not inquire after their gods, saying, 'How did these nations serve their gods? I also will do likewise.' You shall not worship the LORD your God in that way . . . Whatever I command you, be careful to observe it; you shall not add to it nor take away from it (emphasis added throughout).
And lest some think this is simply an Old Testament command that no longer applies, the apostle Paul makes the same point in 2 Corinthians 6, where he addresses whether unbiblical religious customs and practices have any place in the worship of God's people:
What fellowship has righteousness with lawlessness? And what communion has light with darkness? And what accord has Christ with Belial [the devil and/or demons]? Or what part has a believer with an unbeliever? And what agreement has the temple of God with idols? For you are the temple of the living God . . . * +

bobdylan 13.12.14 - 10:34am

Therefore 'Come out from among them and be separate, says the Lord. Do not touch what is unclean, and I will receive you.' 'I will be a Father to you, and you shall be My sons and daughters, says the LORD Almighty.' Therefore, having these promises, beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God (2 Corinthians:6:14-18

; 7:1).
Rather than relabeling pagan customs as Christian, or allowing members of the Church to continue their old pagan practices, the apostle Paul told them in no uncertain terms to leave behind all these forms of worship and worship God in true holiness as He commands. Jesus likewise says His true followers must worship in spirit and truth (John:4:24)not revel in recycled pagan customs and symbolism. * +

bobdylan 13.12.14 - 10:38am
Since Christmas is a jumble of ancient pagan customs invented by men, and a holiday found nowhere in the Bible, does God honor or accept such worship?
Jesus provides the answer in His stern rebuke of the religious teachers of His day, men who had substituted human traditions and teachings for God's divine truths and commands: Well did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites . . . 'in vain they worship Me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.' . . . All too well you reject the commandment of God, that you may keep your tradition (Mark:7:6-
). * +

bobdylan 13.12.14 - 10:40am
Since Christmas is a jumble of ancient pagan customs invented by men, and a holiday found nowhere in the Bible, does God honor or accept such worship?
Jesus provides the answer in His stern rebuke of the religious teachers of His day, men who had substituted human traditions and teachings for God's divine truths and commands: Well did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites . . . 'in vain they worship Me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.' . . . All too well you reject the commandment of God, that you may keep your tradition (Mark:7:6-9). * +

bobdylan 13.12.14 - 10:42am

It's always good to ask the question, What would Jesus do? The answer, from the Scriptures, is quite clear as to what Jesus did. Jesus didn't allow His followers the option of adopting pagan practices in their worship. He and the apostles plainly kept God's Holy Days and festivals that we find recorded in Leviticus 23.
As noted above, they kept the Passover (1 Corinthians:11:23-26

). Scripture shows they also observed the Days of Unleavened Bread (Acts:20:6; 1 Corinthians:5:7-8

). The New Testament Church itself was founded on the Feast of Pentecost (Acts:2:1), another biblical festival they clearly observed (Acts:20:16). They likewise kept the Day of Atonement (called the Fast in Acts:27:9) and the Feast of Tabernacles (John:7:2, 10).
Christmas, meanwhile, is totally missing from the biblical record. * +

aijaz0 13.12.14 - 10:48am

@ bobdylan - 13.12.14 - 10:31am
Ok it wasn't Jesus's actual birthday and this is even a given , every on accepts this .
But he was born , and as that information isn't available as when he was born then you may as well pick a date to celebrate he's birth .... Right ?

Now the controversity is that the 25th was already a important bash , not just pagan but even beyond that , astrologically it's important so different religions all over history n the world observed it from the starts as been a day for a party ..... Now if there's already a party bash that day why not label it your own , remember Christianity is a brand that required selling .

But the bible it's self dose not say celebrate the birth and that it's more about the death ... Then we have Jesus who had no idea of Christianity , tbf didn't start it either . He was a Jew , did Jew things and he's ''msg'' was a new way of jewdisum .
Jesus said very strongly you must stick to the old testament and the old ways , largely Jewish holidays .
So is it really right for Christians to see xmass as a religious Holliday

So you actually saying that prophet jesus is not God. Right??? Because God was not born as per the bible is consirned and as well as in Quran....... * +

ladibud 13.12.14 - 11:03am
Jesus was not God... Christianity means follower of Christ.... errr yes many Christians do not celebrate Christmas due to all the things mentioned Bob..... many find it an extreme sin to be part of the festivities. * +