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newt182 29.10.14 - 07:36pm
Pope Francis declares evolution and Big Bang theory are real and God isn't 'a magician with a magic wand'



The theories of evolution and the Big Bang are real and God is not a magician with a magic wand, Pope Francis has declared.

Speaking at the Pontifical Academy of Sciences, the Pope made comments which experts said put an end to the pseudo theories of creationism and intelligent design that some argue were encouraged by his predecessor, Benedict XVI.

Francis explained that both scientific theories were not incompatible with the existence of a creator arguing instead that they require it.

When we read about Creation in Genesis, we run the risk of imagining God was a magician, with a magic wand able to do everything. But that is not so, Francis said.

He added: He created human beings and let them develop according to the internal laws that he gave to each one so they would reach their fulfilment. * +

newt182 29.10.14 - 07:36pm
The Big Bang, which today we hold to be the origin of the world, does not contradict the intervention of the divine creator but, rather, requires it.

Evolution in nature is not inconsistent with the notion of creation, because evolution requires the creation of beings that evolve.

The Catholic Church has long had a reputation for being anti-science most famously when Galileo faced the inquisition and was forced to retract his heretic theory that the Earth revolved around the Sun.

But Pope Franciss comments were more in keeping with the progressive work of Pope Pius XII, who opened the door to the idea of evolution and actively welcomed the Big Bang theory. In 1996, John Paul II went further and suggested evolution was more than a hypothesis and effectively proven fact.

Yet more recently, Benedict XVI and his close advisors have apparently endorsed the idea that intelligent design underpins evolution the idea that natural selection on its own is insufficient to explain the complexity of the world. In 2005, his close associate Cardinal Schoenborn wrote an article saying evolution in the sense of common ancestry might be true, but evolution in the neo-Darwinian sense an unguided, unplanned process is not. * +

newt182 29.10.14 - 07:37pm
More here: [link]http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/pope-francis-declares-evolution-and-big-bang-theory-are-right-and-god-isnt-a-magician-with-a-magic-wand-9822514.html[/link] * +

nolisto1 29.10.14 - 07:51pm
This isn't news, catholics have believed in evolution for a long time. They are entitled to their opinion. Evolution is as reasonable a thing to believe as anything else. I used to believe in it, I choose not to anymore. What difference does believing in evolution make in your life. Will your wednesday be better or worse off for believing it? My attitude to it, its, I don't care. * +

nolisto1 29.10.14 - 08:03pm
But now the problem that catholics have then is that they believe in miracles. In order to be a saint you must perform a miracle. Aren't miracles magic? It's also breaking the laws of physics. So there isn't consistency in their doctrine. * +

newt182 29.10.14 - 10:12pm
So the Vatican have officially announced evolution is real, the big bang did happen, and god isn't a magician, before? * +

vampboy 30.10.14 - 12:27am
''Evolution is as reasonable a thing to believe as anything else'' so believing in snakes that can talk, horses that can fly, and a pen that can talk is as reasonable as believing theories with brief scientific evidence? * +

vampboy 30.10.14 - 12:30am
''What difference does believing in evolution make in your life. Will your wednesday be better or worse off for believing it?'' It makes you less ignorant, it determines your children's future about how he understands the origin of humans, it will affect your children's children, it will affect a generation. * +

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