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recurve 26.02.15 - 09:43am
Our predicament is in part the consequence of uncontrolled immigration which still continues despite Tory promises to curb it. In the year to June 2014, 272,000 immigrants from non-EU countries arrived in Britain. No one can say how many of them were Muslim, but probably more than half.

The combination of a higher birth-rate among the Muslim population, and unceasing immigration, has led some reputable forecasters to predict that there may be between five and six million Muslims in this country by 2030.

Unless this population can be properly integrated as it would be in the United States there will be increasing numbers of young Muslims who feel alienated from mainstream society, and whose sympathetic attitude towards violence will have horrendous consequences.
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recurve 26.02.15 - 09:43am
Surely it must be obvious to everyone except the most bone-headed Leftist that the doctrine of multiculturalism has been exposed as dangerously divisive. And yet, despite various government programmes, it persists pretty much unchecked.

The so-called Prevent scheme introduced by the Labour government to combat extremism has had very limited success, and has few defenders. Last week, Brusthom Ziamani, a young Muslim convert, was found guilty of planning to kill a soldier. The court heard that efforts by Prevent to engage with Ziamani had failed as he told police officers that it was 'too late' to stop him being radicalised.
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recurve 26.02.15 - 09:44am
Meanwhile, the Government's belated plan for British values to be taught at schools, though well-intended, seems often to be interpreted as simply being nice to lesbians and gays, which doesn't usually go down well in Muslim-dominated schools. I doubt whether it is having the intended effect on the attitudes of young Muslims.

Compare the Government's rather limp response with recent, more far-reaching plans unveiled in France in the wake of the Charlie Hebdo attack. Teachers there will inculcate the values of secularism, and pupils and parents will be required to sign a charter of secularism. The national anthem, the Marseillaise, will be sung in schools, and there will be ceremonies involving the French flag.

Of course, it may not work. France's Muslim population is much bigger than ours and the country almost certainly has many more alienated young men. But after the shock of the Charlie Hebdo attack, there does at least appear to be some robust thinking across the Channel.
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bozzalad 26.02.15 - 09:44am

@ recurve - 26.02.15 - 09:43am
Our predicament is in part the consequence of uncontrolled immigration which still continues despite Tory promises to curb it. In the year to June 2014, 272,000 immigrants from non-EU countries arrived in Britain. No one can say how many of them were Muslim, but probably more than half.

The combination of a higher birth-rate among the Muslim population, and unceasing immigration, has led some reputable forecasters to predict that there may be between five and six million Muslims in this country by 2030.

Unless this population can be properly integrated as it would be in the United States there will be increasing numbers of young Muslims who feel alienated from mainstream society, and whose sympathetic attitude towards violence will have horrendous consequences.

that ship sailed long ago * +

recurve 26.02.15 - 09:44am
Unless disaffected British Muslims are made to feel part of the mainstream if, in other words, they continue to be left alone to be radicalised there are bound to be more outrages here. This is almost certainly the biggest issue facing this country. How many of the forthcoming political manifestoes will properly address it?

It's great that most British Muslims 'oppose Muhammad cartoons reprisals', in the words of the BBC. But it takes a dangerous sort of woolly thinking to ignore the fact that many hundreds of thousands of them don't.
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bozzalad 26.02.15 - 09:48am
'oppose Muhammad cartoons reprisals'.......that sentence alone is pathetic n should never need saying *

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