Holocaust Deniers. - Page 13/16

@ shadow27 - 25.04.18 - 10:03am
5 years ago:

Cambodia's parliament has approved a bill which makes it illegal to deny that atrocities were committed by the Khmer Rouge in the 1970s.
The move comes amid political in-fighting in the run-up to elections.
Anyone found guilty of denying or playing down the crimes could face up to two years in prison.
About 1.7 million people, about one-third of the population, are thought to have been killed, or died of over-work, starvation or torture from 1975-1979.
Prime Minister Hun Sen proposed the law after an opposition leader apparently blamed Vietnam for some of the deaths and reportedly said that the infamous S-21 torture prison ''was staged''. The lawmaker maintains that the recording of his words was doctored.

What's your take on such laws? * +

shadow27 25.04.18 - 10:07am
When the KR cadre trundled into Phnom Penh a quarter of a century ago, most of the 2 million-plus, war-weary residents of the capital breathed a sigh of relief. They were wrong to do so.
The tragedy that ensued defied the notion that so-called communists cared about the costs it would take to develop a new society. * +

kimjongl 25.04.18 - 10:07am

@ vampboy - 25.04.18 - 10:01am
Is that the case you see in Turkey where genocide is denied by public at large and education on such genocide is non existent, and where writing on the truth of the matter can even lead to arrest and persecution?
Did you think of it from this perspective or are we to hold the Western society to such a high esteem that we can't possibly contemplate any scenario when a genocide took place and the state denied responsibility for it?
Rather than your theory based on premise that there would be a shift of responsibility from the perpetrator to the denier, isn't it more likely that denial will actually cover up an ongoing genocide and mass killing?

Also anti gencoide laws are covered as part of fundamental human rights, signed and entered into by most states, whereas holocaust denial rules are limited only to a few national jurisdictions, unrecognized by international jurisdictions at large.

I do see your point and know where you are coming from, which is why I made the point clear that I don't agree with sanctions against individuals who deny the Holocaust, but the rationality behind why they exist is more than obvious really.

And it's a lazy rationality. * +

kimjongl 25.04.18 - 10:08am
Imagine having such a weak argument that you need laws and threats of jailing your opponents to protect your position. * +

vampboy 25.04.18 - 10:09am
I don't know. * +

vampboy 25.04.18 - 10:11am

@ kimjongl - 25.04.18 - 10:08am
Imagine having such a weak argument that you need laws and threats of jailing your opponents to protect your position.

That's exactly what all legal duties do. They produce sanctions. * +

tranie 25.04.18 - 10:12am