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Subject: Holocaust Deniers.
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ladibud 25.04.18 - 07:09am

@ tranie - 24.04.18 - 07:30pm
Judaism is not a race. You have Jews from the 4 corners of the world the lost tribe of Israel ended up in Ethiopia and from them you have many black jews.

no Judaism is a religion. but Jew is a race... anyone can follow Judaism... but you are either born a jew or you aren't. * +

dodgey 25.04.18 - 07:15am
Yes , Jewish people have a certain look so they are a race, a Hebrew race, they tend to just mix , live and work in their own communities. * +

vampboy 25.04.18 - 07:38am

@ ladibud - 25.04.18 - 07:09am
no Judaism is a religion. but Jew is a race... anyone can follow Judaism... but you are either born a jew or you aren't.

Nope, that's incorrect. Both orthodox Judaism and conservative Judaism deem a person to be Jewish if their mother is Jewish or they underwent a proper conversion. Other forms of Judaism allow linkage to either of the parent, but in short it cannot be atributed as a racial classification, and even ethnic classfication is bought into question.
In Islam for instance, it is also presumed by most sects that a child born to a Muslim parent is also a Muslim, but it is as much of a choice to be Muslim later on in life as it is Jewish.
Jews are tied to their ethnicty or religion very much based on the culture and traditions associated with the religion in their families. * +

vampboy 25.04.18 - 07:39am

@ dodgey - 25.04.18 - 07:15am
Yes , Jewish people have a certain look so they are a race, a Hebrew race, they tend to just mix , live and work in their own communities.

No, they don't.
You can go as far as saying some are semitic people, but that includes Arabs as well as some other middle eastern groups too.
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kimjongl 25.04.18 - 09:14am
To think men 250 years ago knew the dangers of having the state deem what is and what isn't illegal speech and people today, with all our modern technology and education, can't seem to grasp the concept. * +

vampboy 25.04.18 - 09:16am

@ kimjongl - 25.04.18 - 09:14am
To think men 250 years ago knew the dangers of having the state deem what is and what isn't illegal speech and people today, with all our modern technology and education, can't seem to grasp the concept.

Because modern researches have significantly shown people the possible consequences and effects from denying a genocide on a public level as opposed to 250 years ago.
I don't agree with the rationale that one should be arrested for denying any historical event, but such laws exist for a reason and not just so to pander to the Jews.
There are many studies that indicate the prior mentioned effects. * +

dodgey 25.04.18 - 09:21am

@ vampboy - 25.04.18 - 07:39am
No, they don't.
You can go as far as saying some are semitic people, but that includes Arabs as well as some other middle eastern groups too.

Once again you're wrong and im right. * +

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