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Subject: Blessed virgin mary

rainingkrypton 30.12.19 - 03:45pm

Islam makes a false assertion that Ismail was the one who was almost sacrificed on that altar, when it was in fact Isaac (Isaak).
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rainingkrypton 30.12.19 - 03:47pm

Yes, praying to/(venerating of) Mary, mother of Jesus, is a ridiculous concept. She was just a physical vessel to hold and give birth to something that is spiritual - the Redemption Plan set from the beginning of time through the birth, life and death of Jesus Christ.. God in the physical form, to take all the Sin of man as The Sacrificial Lamb.. The only way man can be cleansed of all Sin and be acceptable unto God.
All works is foolishness. * +

rainingkrypton 30.12.19 - 03:56pm

Don't forget The Resurrection.. that was the main point of it all.. Eternal Life in the Redemption Plan. In the death of the old self and the infilling of the Holy Spirit, one can only get closer to God. * +

miaiad 1.01.20 - 10:12pm

As muslims, we also call Jesus/Isa as Masih... Masih here may refer to two meanings in Arabic
(1) The action Isa did to touch disease place of a person/ eyes of blind person/etc., so it will heal quickly.
(2) The one who used to travel along the regions to convey the message of Allah/God. * +

miaiad 1.01.20 - 10:24pm

First of all, thanks for your honest opinion, which I respect. Let me present some points in brief:
(1) I thought you were referring to the story of Jesus/Marry, not Isaac and Ismail, which is quite far from both history and context.
(2) There is no certain verse in Quran nor narration in Hadith that Ismail was the sacrificed one. If you know, then tell me, eh? Then It is not correct to make this as false assertion. How do we know it is false?
(3) Did you know that some Muslim scholars, specially in old ages, also consider that Isaac was the sacrificed son of Ibrahim (peace be upon him)?
(4) However, though there is no certain direct naming of the sacrificed son in Quran/Hadith (as above), we may read some hints between lines from Quran/Hadith that Ismail was more probably the sacrificed one. If you interested, I can explain this later.
(5) As Muslims, we believe in both Ismail and Isaac are noble prophets, we believe in both of them an in all prophets of Allah/God. See Quran 2:285 ((All of them have believed in Allah and His angels and His books and His messengers, [saying], We make no distinction between any of His messengers.)).
(6) The naming of whom was sacrificed is more into a historical issue, rather than a belief significance.
(7) What is important in that story is to learn the full submission to Allah/God command as Ibrahim (peace be upon him) done, regardless of the name of the sacrificed son. * +

slick_01 2.01.20 - 12:26am

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