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shadow27 14.07.14 - 04:22am
All the stuff about sephirim etc was fascinating to me when we read it back in school. Just really weird s**t, seemed almost occult somehow. * +

dgsn 14.07.14 - 05:39am

@ xfrankie - 13.07.14 - 10:13pm
hybrid giant offspring, where did u get that, Gen 6:1-4, let Scripture interprete Scripture for u, carefully study the context its becomes clear as day

From christians. It came about because of those photos of giant skeletons that were a part of a photoshop competition but ended up being a conspiracy of science as in 'what are they hiding...proof of Nephilim exists look at these photos'. * +

dgsn 14.07.14 - 05:44am

@ ogdenz - 14.07.14 - 03:15am
And wasn't Lucifer also referred to as the morning star?,

Yep. Represented as Venus, the morning star. The light bearer. * +

propidol 14.07.14 - 11:10am
The Watcher's were not a part of Satan's rebellion; they created their own rebellion against God by deciding to leave their first estate which was heaven, and go to the earth to cohabitate with human women. Why doesn't the church ever address this issue? In fact, why did they try to cover it up by leaving Enoch out of the canon version of the Bible, and then manipulate the meaning sons of God. They mistranslated Sons of God, (angels of God) creating some ridiculous theory suggesting it to mean Sons of Seth. People bought that explanation because they did not realize there was such a huge difference in changing that text around and it would keep them from the truth and allow the churches to cover it up.
Enoch was one of the greatest Prophets of God to have ever walked the Earth. In his lifetime he wrote 365 books. We have one of them. Where are the others? Are they lost or being kept hidden? It is in Enoch where we first learn about the rebellion of the Watchers, the angels assigned to watch over and guard over the earth * +

propidol 14.07.14 - 11:13am
*Chapter 6:1 it says..*
*1*And it came to pass when the children of men had multiplied that in those days were born unto them beautiful and comely daughters.
*2*And the angels, the children of the heaven, saw and lusted after them, and said to one another: 'Come, let us choose us wives from among the children of men
*3*and beget us children.' And Semjaza, who was their leader, said unto them:
Enoch then continues to discuss a deal he makes with fellow Watchers to all commit the same sin.
In verse 7, it says that there were 200 chiefs on the summit of Mount Hermon, which is located on the border of Lebanon and Syria and stands over 9,000 feet high. They agreed to come to earth and cohabitate with women.
These 200 chiefs were each in charge of tens of thousands of other Watchers. So how many fell with them.We do not know, maybe they all did. That would put the number into the hundreds of thousands that fell from heaven and came to earth.

*Chapter 7*
*1*And all the others together with them (this indicates their armies did follow them) took unto themselves wives, and each chose for himself one, and they began to go in unto them and to defile themselves with them, and they taught them charms
*2*and enchantments, and the cutting of roots, and made them acquainted with plants. And they
*3*became pregnant, and they bare great giants, whose height was three thousand ells: Who consumed
*4*all the acquisitions of men. And when men could no longer sustain them, the giants turned against
*5*them and devoured mankind. And they began to sin against birds, and beasts, and reptiles, and
*6*fish, and to devour one another's flesh, and drink the blood (cannibalism). Then the earth laid accusation against the lawless ones. * +

propidol 14.07.14 - 06:41pm
So what is the physical differences between, Angels, Demons and Watchers? The Watchers clearly have genitals whereas Angels are said not to have. Are Demons meant to still be beautiful like the Angels they once were or did they undergo some physical transformation with their fall from Gods grace? * +

propidol 14.07.14 - 06:45pm

@ propidol - 14.07.14 - 11:13am
*Chapter 6:1 it says..*
*1*And it came to pass when the children of men had multiplied that in those days were born unto them beautiful and comely daughters.
*2*And the angels, the children of the heaven, saw and lusted after them, and said to one another: 'Come, let us choose us wives from among the children of men
*3*and beget us children.' And Semjaza, who was their leader, said unto them:
Enoch then continues to discuss a deal he makes with fellow Watchers to all commit the same sin.
In verse 7, it says that there were 200 chiefs on the summit of Mount Hermon, which is located on the border of Lebanon and Syria and stands over 9,000 feet high. They agreed to come to earth and cohabitate with women.
These 200 chiefs were each in charge of tens of thousands of other Watchers. So how many fell with them.We do not know, maybe they all did. That would put the number into the hundreds of thousands that fell from heaven and came to earth.

*Chapter 7*
*1*And all the others together with them (this indicates their armies did follow them) took unto themselves wives, and each chose for himself one, and they began to go in unto them and to defile themselves with them, and they taught them charms
*2*and enchantments, and the cutting of roots, and made them acquainted with plants. And they
*3*became pregnant, and they bare great giants, whose height was three thousand ells: Who consumed
*4*all the acquisitions of men. And when men could no longer sustain them, the giants turned against
*5*them and devoured mankind. And they began to sin against birds, and beasts, and reptiles, and
*6*fish, and to devour one another's flesh, and drink the blood (cannibalism). Then the earth laid accusation against the lawless ones.

*1*And Azazel taught men to make swords, and knives, and shields, and breastplates, and made known to them the metals of the earth and the art of working them, and bracelets, and ornaments, and the use of antimony, and the beautifying of the eyelids, and all kinds of costly stones, and all
*2*colouring tinctures. And there arose much godlessness, and they committed fornication, and they
*3*were led astray, and became corrupt in all their ways. Semjaza taught enchantments, and root-cuttings, 'Armaros the resolving of enchantments, Baraqijal (taught) astrology, Kokabel the constellations, Ezeqeel the knowledge of the clouds, Araqiel the signs of the earth, Shamsiel the signs of the sun, and Sariel the course of the moon. And as men perished, they cried, and their cry went up to heaven .
**
*Chapter 9*
**
*1*And then Michael, Uriel, Raphael, and Gabriel looked down from heaven and saw much blood being
*2*shed upon the earth, and all lawlessness being wrought upon the earth. And they said one to another: The earth made without inhabitant cries the voice of their cryings up to the gates of heaven.
*3*And now to you, the holy ones of heaven, the souls of men make their suit, saying, Bring our cause
*4*before the Most High. And they said to the Lord of the ages: Lord of lords, God of gods, King of kings, and God of the ages, the throne of Thy glory (standeth) unto all the generations of the
*5*ages, and Thy name holy and glorious and blessed unto all the ages! Thou hast made all things, and power over all things hast Thou: and all things are naked and open in Thy sight, and Thou seest all
*6*things, and nothing can hide itself from Thee. Thou seest what Azazel hath done, who hath taught all unrighteousness on earth and revealed the eternal secrets which were (preserved) in heaven, which
*7*men were striving to learn: And Semjaza, to whom Thou hast given authority to bear rule over his associates. And they have gone to the daughters of m * +

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