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Subject: nature as god and heaven

moonspel 17.09.11 - 11:42am
if a xtian heaven exist im sure ppl wud treat it better than earth when they got there. We are destroying the planet at an alarming rate, we kill each other n fight wars often over religion, we have no respect 4 the planet. And its nt just the destruction, belief in a better life means we cannot possibly fully appreciate the beauty n uniqueness of both our life now n the world around us. * +

moonspel 17.09.11 - 11:51am
and also, based on what we see everyday, nature posesses deep wisdom n transcendency, bt doesnt have a conscience. It is just perfectly formed, which is what makes it and our life now even more unique and special. There is no way a conscious, all powerful deity would let us destroy nature in the way that we have. * +

drakess9 17.09.11 - 10:58pm
Heaven just to confirm means another dimention. People have this idea that we christians think it is some floaty place to the sky we look, which we do look to the sky, whether christian or not. Heaven is simply another dimention.x. When love is more powerful than hate then we can love all like Jesus. Love the person dislike the sin.x. Moonspel we were givne freewill and no Goid doesn't like the * +

drakess9 17.09.11 - 10:58pm
God doesn't like the way we treat the planet * +

moonspel 19.09.11 - 09:36pm
whatever the xtian heaven is it is illogical n we have no proof of it. My heaven is proven, as we see it everyday. This is the heaven we shud live 4, bt we are intent on turning it 2 hell. And god is meant 2 be all knowing n all powerful so he wud have known our species path when he created us. This contradicts the free will argument n makes it inconceivable that he wud allow us 2 damage his * +

moonspel 19.09.11 - 09:37pm
creation in the way that we have. *

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